JBA-R03
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Proof and objection reader
ORIGINAL LANGUAGE FIRST
Pedagogical transliterationu-reminhu ... mai ve-omer ... ta shema
WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT
Proof and objection reader
The unit opens וּרְמִינְהוּ, setting a tannaitic source against the position under discussion. After quoting the source, the Gemara asks מַאי וְאוֹמֵר—what does the additional verse contribute? It anticipates an answer with וְכִי תֵימָא and rejects it with תָּא שְׁמַע. Read the discourse markers before attempting the long quotation.
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SEE HOW IT WORKS
Keep the form, reading, and meaning together.
Pedagogical reading guide
Jewish Babylonian Aramaic
ורמינהו challenge + source quotation → מאי ואומר wording question → וכי תימא anticipated answer → תא שמע decisive citation
EXAMPLES
Examples supplied by the approved curriculum.
Close translation of the discourse frame — ‘Raise a contradiction ... What is the purpose of “and it says”? And if you would say that once the sun sets it is night, while they merely worked late and early—come and hear: “The night was a watch for us and the day was labor.”’
SOURCE REFERENCE
Babylonian Talmud, Berakhot 2b:8–10
APPROVED STUDY LAYERS
Source-specific guidance from the curriculum.
Learning objective
Identify challenge, local question, anticipated objection, and proof text in a short Bavli sequence.
Discourse analysis
Jewish Babylonian Aramaic framing surrounds a Hebrew tannaitic quotation and biblical citations. Language changes within the unit are preserved rather than relabeled as uniform JBA.
Practice
Bracket the quoted tannaitic material. Label ורמינהו, מאי ואומר, וכי תימא, and תא שמע by function. Which biblical wording is used to answer the anticipated objection?
Answer key
ורמינהו raises the contradiction; מאי ואומר asks why a second verse is cited; וכי תימא anticipates a possible answer; תא שמע introduces the decisive proof. The answer cites והיו לנו הלילה משמר והיום מלאכה.
Source notes
Primary text: Wikisource Talmud Bavli, CC-BY-SA. The source unit contains both ורמינהו and תא שמע and is continuous in the registered edition.
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